i want to once more take a position that i stole possibly from @pegobry that a better term for this is _fideism_
helpfully from @NoHolyScripture: https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1460220159973601286 …pic.twitter.com/uKsYOlj2Ui
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anyway someone who has his ear please let @JohnHMcWhorter know about this option because im really tired of seeing people get into stupid fights about this
further hansonian comment from follow up with charles who i want to be clear i was not trying to criticize in this thread fideism isnt "people Believe this" its more "your not allowed to seem to not believe it" which seems extremely different than Faithhttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1460226234193879043?t=7zJm4_wCbXhIuWaRQLtX2g&s=19 …
like you know. you think everyone in North Korea shouting praises to the Dear Leader feels overwhelming love for kim jong un in their hearts thats really not the point of it all. the point is to not be executed with a flamethrowerhttps://www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-dictator-kim-jong-uns-executions-anti-aircraft-guns-flamethrowers-mortars …
i disagree with this a good way to distinguish most cases is that usually when someone really believes something deeply, another's nonbelief is a curiosity to them, rather than a threathttps://twitter.com/tjrwriting/status/1460229042985132032?t=LO-CfzPVocvVA12XZJjGtw&s=19 …
i think theres a case to be made for wokeism being a religion, tho i dont have a strong view on this what i object to specifically is the tendency to claim "its a religion" with the implication that this is ipso facto grounds for criticismhttps://twitter.com/JackMartensite/status/1460230982716563457?t=LO-CfzPVocvVA12XZJjGtw&s=19 …
im not sure how McWhorters book actually handles this. but to the extent that his critique boils down to "its bad because its a religion" one can imagine why people of other religions would be unwelcoming to the argument
but it's more than this, as it's getting to the point where you can be ostracized not even for criticizing it but for *refusing to profess it* cf the time I declined to publicly state my pronouns at a parents meeting at the sudbury school
eeeesh
hm
that feels like just a logical extension though maybe. i mean, failing to endorse is kind of like a criticism, right? 
One of the reasons I don't like the term 'freedom of religion' (which implies practices) when what we really want is 'freedom of conscience' (which implies one can think what they want)
yes i wish that word had been used or appended :(
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