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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Nov 4

      just found out about peter thiels $5B roth account and im weeping like caesar before the statue of alexander

      17 replies 6 retweets 420 likes
    2.  🦃笨笨一号 🌐(sponsored)‏ @e____e_e____e Nov 4
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      if only we were able to give us nearly infinite low value shares of our own company and then IPO it

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    3. Richard Yannow‏ @RichardYannow Nov 4
      Replying to @e____e_e____e @eigenrobot

      It's the most brazen tax fraud I've seen in years.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Nov 4
      Replying to @RichardYannow @e____e_e____e

      its not fraud its completely legal. and ingenius

      2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
    5. Richard Yannow‏ @RichardYannow Nov 4
      Replying to @eigenrobot @e____e_e____e

      It turns out that "I'm going to lie about how much my shares are worth to be able to shelter them from taxation" is a strategy that Congress thought of and outlawed, not some brilliant invention of Thiel's.pic.twitter.com/0YBJfEW1S9

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. Julien Chien is also transitory‏ @julienchien Nov 4
      Replying to @RichardYannow @eigenrobot @e____e_e____e

      if FMV at the time was $1, and his options were $0.01, then he'd have to pay taxes on the $0.99/share profit at purchase, no? Shares being sold to employees at below fair value is what happens when you exercise your options after FMV went up, tho you pay taxes on gains

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    7. Richard Yannow‏ @RichardYannow Nov 4
      Replying to @julienchien @eigenrobot @e____e_e____e

      The issue isn't circumventing the .99 cents/share. The issue is putting $200k in a tax-free account that you're only allowed to put $2k/year into. (Assuming FMV was $1). He'd have to pay capital gains on 99% of the shares, which were ineligible to legally be put in the IRA.

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Nov 4
      Replying to @RichardYannow @julienchien @e____e_e____e

      i think we can all agree that what matters is that he was never successfully prosecuted for this

      2:53 PM - 4 Nov 2021
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        2. Richard Yannow‏ @RichardYannow Nov 4
          Replying to @eigenrobot @julienchien @e____e_e____e

          He hasn't successfully taken the money out yet! But yeah, I have no idea why he hasn't been, beyond "he's rich, so the rules don't apply to him".

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        3. Julien Chien is also transitory‏ @julienchien Nov 4
          Replying to @RichardYannow @eigenrobot @e____e_e____e

          Anyone have the actual source of 'paypal told SEC that PayPal later told the SEC the shares were sold “below market value.”' quote that I keep seeing? Confinity was founded Dec '98 & seed round was in '99. The FMV when Thiel bought the shares with his IRA might be the actual FMV

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