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    1. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26

      VivaLaPanda Retweeted Claire Lehmann

      Just model the internet as Printing Press 2 and the answers to all this stuff becomes obvious 1) Improved communication tech increases short-term chaos/conflict 2) Good luck putting that genie back in the bottle 3) Probably going to be a good thing in the long-termhttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1453089155517349894 …

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      Claire LehmannVerified account @clairlemon
      I'm pro-tech & think a lot of reflexive tech criticism is stupid & regressive. But if it turns out that social media companies play a pivotal role in civil wars & genocides in fragile countries, I just don't know how Americans can shrug & say "meh. whatever"
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    2. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26

      In other words, if you're concerned about the short-term conflict (which is totally reasonable), you should be thinking of strategies which allow us to live with the new tech, not try to turn back the clock

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    3. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26

      What brought an end to the religious conflicts that followed the printing press? Mostly new cultural norms, reshaped institutions, etc. Basically 0% of the reduction in conflict was via attempts to restrict/shape the tech itself in order to return to the original order

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    4. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26

      Be interested to hear your thoughts on this take though @eigenrobot

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 26
      Replying to @VivaLaPanda_

      i 100% agree with this although maybe your underestimating extent to which the tech was controlled most countries banned a loooooot of books i believe

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 26
      Replying to @eigenrobot @VivaLaPanda_

      nothing approaching absolute free press existed before maybe 1990s america. not even sure about this and even then, maybe part of the reason that printed material got nearly total freedom was that it was deprecated by other new media (which were heavily regulated)

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        2. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          Def not claiming that printed material was totally unrestricted, but that: 1) trying to ban printed mat doesn't seem to have been a very effect strategy for conflict reduction 2) countries/cultures which did do better at not adopting/banning the new tech were outcompeted

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        3. VivaLaPanda‏ @VivaLaPanda_ Oct 26
          Replying to @VivaLaPanda_ @eigenrobot

          I think 2 is an especially important factor. You might be able to slow down or stop the new tech (china is doing this okay), but in doing so you pass up the eventual benefits of having a more powerful memesphere (should you survive the transition)

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