I do not understand America
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College entry here is everyone takes an exam, gets assigned a score and then for everyone who wants to do a particular course, they’re sorted by score and the top N are given the spot
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It is, of course, run by the Government so there’s that but nonetheless it seems better in every way to the American system
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Replying to @ollyrobot @mechanical_monk
universities here used to function normally this stuff is new in maybe the last ten or fifteen years, mostly in the last five anyway if your wondering why lots of americans on here are frothing anti-leftists this sort of thing has a lot to do with it
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eh, i'm pretty much on the left and i hate this shit, too. the absence of a mature and sedate left in america is why the country tends to lean conservative. there is no serious leftist politician in america, just eternally co-opted champagne left and its cultural trickle-down.
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Replying to @thesravaka @eigenrobot and
This seems self-evidently true to me but I couldn’t tell you why the US diverges from Europe in this regard. Is it because mainstream left leaders in Europe emanate from trade unions, and we don’t accord those any kind of social standing so their leaders never become influential?
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Replying to @hillme89 @eigenrobot and
american business went to war with the unions and the businesses won. they shot, imprisoned, or hanged the labor leaders. then during the cold war leftist orgs were basically the front line of intelligence battles. also rich kids and sex pests like taking advantage.
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Replying to @thesravaka @hillme89 and
i think we do have a pretty robust union scene in the US, it's just almost entirely public sector. the private sector unions to the extent they exist ends up throwing in with conservatives on cultural grounds. so you get a divided union front such is my impression anyway
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Replying to @eigenrobot @thesravaka and
but at the state and local level public sector unions are incredibly influential, especially eg in california of course even there the public sector unions are divided; police and corrections on the right, teachers and such on the left
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Replying to @eigenrobot @thesravaka and
none of this has anything to do with united labor of course, its just extraction from the public fisc so it goes
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i mean for this to be descriptive rather than proscriptive, but I probably am less pro-union than you are and i apologize if my take is tilted. i certainly dont mean to be replying with hostility and apologize if ive hit any hot buttons. risk of the object level :/
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Replying to @eigenrobot @hillme89 and
not at all, the public sector unions are corrupt. federal unions had to be prohibited from federal union leaders working full time on "union business". private sector unions are significantly disconnected from workers. my issue is american unions are rarely proper unions.
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Replying to @thesravaka @eigenrobot and
i don't think you're wrong in anything you say here. this is how the left and american unions (largely) are. it's a shame. there's small anarchistic movements and some proper unionizers running around but many of those don't even want to be called left anymore.
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