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    eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Sep 14

    guilt v shame = internal perception of sin v external perception of sin right

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      2. biden & elaine chao fan club president‏ @namathree Sep 14
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        i think it is humiliation is the external action shame is the internal feeling 0.0

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      3. biden & elaine chao fan club president‏ @namathree Sep 14
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        though idk what u mean by internal and external wrt perception? or is like “assigned blame” or “confessed guilt” or smth like what u mean? may be a good 2 x 2 chart for this 🤷‍♂️

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      2. Evil (Political) Scientist‏ @knrd_z Sep 14
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        Something like that. Shame is the anguish of having others know what you did, guilt the anguish of having done wrong whether anyone knows it. (If either of them are, I think only the latter is arguably derived from monotheism and/or notions of sin)

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      1. Recently Converted Ronanist‏ @Bugs_Meany Sep 14
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        Guilt: reading Twitter Shame: tweeting on Twitter

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      1. Max 58K FOREVER  🏝‏ @minordissent Sep 14
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        Guilt vs shame is a tricky one. My thinking is: Guilt is over something you did Shame is over what it says about who you are you can feel guilt while still considering yourself a “good person” shame however sees you as fundamentally bad or evil

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      1. Matt Squair‏ @mattsquair Sep 14
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        Some shames wound the soul…

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      1. Golgi Apparatchik‏ @Reeeductionism Sep 14
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        Guilt: wrongdoing that demands formal compensation Shame:does not neccesarily demand that

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      1. John Geary‏ @johngearysquash Sep 14
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        every time I try to pin down exactly what this means—and looks at the studies—not sure if fake but maybe fake

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      1. Willet Templeton‏ @wrycountenance Sep 14
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        Shame is societal manifestation, whether through public condemnation or self projection, but you wouldn’t feel ashamed in isolation (e.g stranded on a desert island) but you could feel guilty Antisocial disorder or robot excepted

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