long good thread arguing for a chemical origin of mass obesityhttps://twitter.com/mold_time/status/1412827749828513800 …
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this is a pretty fair rejoinder obvious synthesis seems like (i) chemical causing trend, (ii) chemicals also not sufficient to overcome deliberate manipulation of body in many caseshttps://twitter.com/SimpleTeo/status/1432104526064930817?s=19 …
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"many of these claims are wrong or bad" probably, lots of good objections to specifics in replies "its not monocausal" totally obesity is a complex phenomenon. but the rapid global spread is v interesting and a lot of standard stories dont seem adequate to capture this
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mostly im just glad someone is doing a big survey of it after
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Maybe there is hormonal stuff that affects our ability to control our eating, but nothing has ever debunked CICO. It's reliably true. We can't create mass without mass. Basic physics. Basic biophysics.
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yes but everyone everywhere getting fat all at the same time when they werent before is curious this doesnt contradict CICO
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Even simpler than CICO would be Mass In Mass Out. Even clearer physical backing, even less useful. If your diet makes you hungry and tired in a way that eating fixes, you either break the diet or you've added a new problem.
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I mean its tricky maybe variation in actual nutrients extracted from food endogenous variation in metabolism mass in mass out has to take oxygen, waste into effect like these things are strictly true but not always in a neat useful way for nutrition
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