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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 9

      working on a theory re: apologies and such specifically I get the sense that people have come to misunderstand apologies. I don't entirely understand them myself but I want to spitball

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 9

      the failure mode seems to be interpreting apologies as being necessarily massive acts of self abnegation if someone apologizes to another this is necessarily a matter of groveling. every time its the Humiliation of Canossa there are a stack of failure modes here lets enumerate

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 9

      A) one common failure mode is interpreting an apology to oneself as necessarily an opportunity to condemn another or make outrageous demands of them an apology is an acknowledgement of a lapse and so an opportunity to destroy while one is morally outlawed

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 10

      this is in fact completely unchristian and sort of a weird development as at Canossa, an act of such abasement /imposes a tacit obligation to forgive/, as Gregory VII was forced to do in rescinding Henry IV's excommunication

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 10

      of course one can still refuse forgiveness but depending on circumstance this can make you look like Kind Of An Unreasonable Dick (complicated) but in any case responding to genuine contrition with violence is ghastly

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    6. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 10

      but such untoward aggression seems to be a common response to public apologies because they are in fact an admission of guilt which seems bad because

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    7. dji  ☠️ nnius  🇮🇲‏ @djinnius Aug 10
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      a public apology isn't an apology, it's a confession apologies are for the people you've harmed/offended, which is never, ever, everyone who might read such a twete

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    8. dji  ☠️ nnius  🇮🇲‏ @djinnius Aug 10
      Replying to @djinnius @eigenrobot

      there is a place for confession as well. but in contemporary kangaroomob justice, the main character stands accused of much more than the offense, always "i'm sorry i said the n word to a friend when i was fourteen" == i'm a nazi and i always will be

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 10
      Replying to @venusianfriend @djinnius

      people are apologizing for stuff like that wrong imo the mob can smell fear a mile away

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        2. dji  ☠️ nnius  🇮🇲‏ @djinnius Aug 10
          Replying to @eigenrobot @venusianfriend

          idk if there is a right way to do it easy for me to say "just don't apologize" but it's harder when all your gigs are dropping you the apologies don't help though so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 10
          Replying to @djinnius

          yeah its tricky. also shitty. facing down a mob is one of the most difficult social maneuvers. ive thought long and hard about how I would do it, but ive never been tested.

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