im vaccinated and i would really prefer everyone choose to be vaccinated but i dont spend time talking about this for a few reasons. this first is that i dont actually think it would have the desired effect if i just yelled at people about it. relatedly this feels tendentious.
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the third is that the people who are really vocally not just provaccine but coercive about it have a serious missing mood about their stancehttps://www.econlib.org/archives/2016/01/the_invisible_t.html …
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if your position is "having everyone vaccinated is incredibly important, so much so (for various reasons) that we should accept the very real and serious short- and long-term civil costs of coercing people to get a vaccine" i actually respect that thought i dont necessarily agree
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the pro-coercion position that i actually tend to see is more like thispic.twitter.com/gCWo2k7cAl
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Not sure I understand how "I'd be in favor of coercive methods, except I don't like the attitude of some of the people pushing them" is any more comforting to vax-hesitant types than yelling at them. Unless I misunderstood you.
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I also don't think they're worth it and I don't think they would work if that is any help
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basically I can imagine circumstances where I would support coercing people to get vaccinated, but it aint this disease and it aint with these people doing the coercing and its sure as hell not with these methods
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but all of that aside the fact that people seem *eager* to use as much coercion as possible makes it even more repugnant to me on the margin like coercion is really bad in its own right and it causes tons of other problems beside and if you're going to advocate for using it,
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I want you to be incredibly clear about why this is the only thing that would work, that it would work, that you're using the minimal necessary force; and all of this delivered in a really depressed and resigned tone to make clear that you think it fucking sucks and you hate it
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