and IDK about other states, but in Virginia it's also way more clearly within the governor's remit under the constitution and applicable statutes. Quarantine is one of the most ancient powers of government, literally dating back millenia, it's not at all unprecedented.
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Replying to @sgodofsk @AlexGodofsky and
but I sense the objection is not to how mean it is to put a lien on someone's house, but to making any lifestyle adjustments whatsoever to a pandemic
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Replying to @sgodofsk @HMBrough_ and
eh a lot of people are understandably very mad at the smug way lyman emphasized that the state can impose extremely coercive measures on them without inviting the risk of violent reprisal but well that is the world we live in and he was correct about the facts
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Replying to @eigenrobot @sgodofsk and
Speaking to the specific context here - that the state can impose ruinous consequences against you, consequences that will coerce compliance out of a large and sufficient fraction of the population, simply through the financial system, is correct, and that you have no recourse.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @eigenrobot and
That is correct. The things preventing the state from doing that are *not* your ability to individually resist, but democratic forces.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @eigenrobot and
I am not particularly gleeful about this state of affairs but I think it is an effective refutation to the "you can't enforce compliance" arguments against centralized quarantine.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @eigenrobot and
And, I do believe that a better expert class, the expert class we claim to want, would have implemented policies like this, and it would have been effective and saved both lives and liberty. They probably would not have needed to go Full Lyman in terms of enforcement mechanisms.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @sgodofsk and
i dont think state capacity of this sort actually exists in the united states, and anyone who tried to use this sort of coercion would quickly discover this and you should probably hope im right
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I dont even think its a matter of fairness, i dont think they could do it at all
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