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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 5

      eigenrobot Retweeted Kitten  💖 🐈

      how do people square this with the resume experiments that seem to pretty regularly allegedly show bias in the other direction? are tech and military just aggressively biased in the other direction or whathttps://twitter.com/kitten_beloved/status/1423335659880603648 …

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      Kitten  💖 🐈 @kitten_beloved
      The same thing happens in tech 4 years ago ElectronConf did a blind selection process for speakers thinking it would improve diversity, but ended up with all men and had to cancel in shame https://archive.is/Es3yx  https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1423003743339958274 …
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    2. elle‏ @ellegist Aug 6
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      95% of the time with stuff like this it is stupidly easy to distinguish female from male writing/speech discrimination here isn’t “I hate women,” it’s “I prefer confidence, straight-talking, self-assuredness” etc., which typically resolve as male traits

      1 reply 0 retweets 39 likes
    3. elle‏ @ellegist Aug 6
      Replying to @ellegist @eigenrobot

      women frequently joke about how often they remove exclamation marks, smiley faces, the word “just,” phrases like “if that’s ok with you” etc from their work emails in bids to sound more assertive I do not know any men with this problem

      9 replies 0 retweets 33 likes
    4. Dr. Dad, PhD‏ @GarrettPetersen Aug 6
      Replying to @ellegist @eigenrobot

      My wife literally ran all her work emails through an AI tone analyzer and re-wrote them to be less tentative, more assertive.

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. Steven Godofsky‏ @sgodofsk Aug 6
      Replying to @GarrettPetersen @ellegist @eigenrobot

      I don't think tone is what's causing this result with resumes. People aren't looking at resumes, seeing feminine coded tone, and throwing them in the reject pile. Mostly when people read resumes they're looking for keywords.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. Steven Godofsky‏ @sgodofsk Aug 6
      Replying to @sgodofsk @GarrettPetersen and

      the simplest explanation is that after years and years of people in tech saying we need more women in tech they are articulating their honest preference for women over men and we should just believe them

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. elle‏ @ellegist Aug 6
      Replying to @sgodofsk @GarrettPetersen @eigenrobot

      hmm sounds like conjecture I’ve done fintech, data, & SaaS, and never worked in a company with more than abt 30% women the data agrees revealed preferences > stated preferences

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Aug 6
      Replying to @ellegist @sgodofsk @GarrettPetersen

      to what extent are you thinking these are preferences of women vs of employers?

      9:02 AM - 6 Aug 2021
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        2. Steven Godofsky‏ @sgodofsk Aug 6
          Replying to @eigenrobot @ellegist @GarrettPetersen

          when we see that like 30% of kids taking APCS are women, and then 30% of people majoring in CS are women, and then 30% of people in tech are women, we could conclude that this is the revealed preference of all the schools and employers, or of the people matriculating in them

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