do you think things have gotten objectively worse? genuinely curious what you would use to establish this
I mean it's not a question of "good" or "bad" but rather "better" or "worse" when we're looking at differences over time you know?
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Replying to @eigenrobot
the rise in hate crimes actually is demonstrable, though i dont think thats the central cause its more that in 2014 we got a wave of anti-police violence protests that shifted the culture war terrain
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Replying to @OldDreyfusard @eigenrobot
basically: the culture war we're stuck in is a different one than the one fought in the 90s and 2000s its one in which religion, gay rights, etc, are no longer in concention and the aspects of the previous rounds which focused on race are now the entire core of the conflict
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Replying to @OldDreyfusard @eigenrobot
or rather: we're in a different iteration of the same culture war, which has some continuity with the previous ones but also differences which arent just the result of one side winning or losing the coalitions themselves get redrawn somewhat
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Replying to @OldDreyfusard
I think "people started paying a lot of attention to it" feels more like "something magically happened" than it does "things got objectively worse between races" disparities in the 80s and 90s were really bad. I mean inner cities were basically war zones
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Replying to @eigenrobot
i mean the direct causal links here are: 1. the election of a black president 2. the result of crime being less omnipresent was that the policies reacting to it started to get reexamined, and 3. the Left kinda just winning on same-sex marriage
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Replying to @OldDreyfusard @eigenrobot
2 is a thing i think a lot about theres room to say 'there was a significant overcorrection' now in ways there werent a decade and a half ago
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https://twitter.com/OldDreyfusard/status/1418382699417325569?s=20 … this is not to say the conversation with you wasnt productive i just dont like how these QTs clutter my twitter profile when i look at it
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for sure, I appreciate talking with you regardless :)
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