related thought on this there is a ton of center left garment rending about how to get people who are not blue tribe to adopt some blue tribe norms "why arent they getting vaccinated" "whats the matter with kansas" "why are they going to church instead of becoming vegans" etchttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1418232108640739328 …
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one thing i have not noticed is any cultural evangelism from red tribe, or similar concerns about blue tribe behaviors "why arent they going to church" "why arent these soccer moms voting red" "what is the Root Cause of rich white kids burning black neighborhoods"
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would track with various studies(? data? idk it's going around) saying red understands blue far better than blue understands red
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I do agree with this Blue tribe totally does not get red tribe Red tribe I think at least gets blue on an emotional level, they just disagree with the conclusions
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i think this is true in some cases but very not in others. e.g. i don’t think many reds actually understand the blue perspective on consent, and most really really don’t get why blues like cities so much.
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If you're talking about sex I think it's complicated and that Red sees blue as sucking the fun out of sexual tension and oblique attraction by vocalizing things that don't always require vocalization, and they downplay the trauma of being misread and the problems it causes
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But in general I think blue tribe is far less concerned with individual consent for things perceived as morally righteous than red tribe is--theyre a lot more likely to want to force compliance
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i don’t think of consent to sex as being much different from consent to other things, which is one of the things i think few reds understand. it’s most obvious with kids: hugs from grandma should require consent, and very few reds get this at all. (fair number of grays do though)
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I get consent but I think using it as a totalizing ethical framework is nuts
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depending on what you mean by that, i either don’t think anyone does that, or i think it’s not nuts at all. not sure which
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