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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      he notes further the alleged gender imbalance of china as an exacerbating factor although I understand that may be overstated for data quality reasons he also hasnt cited everyone becoming old as a potential stabilizing factor

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      apart from humanitarian issues his major concern is that CCP legitimacy (so he claims, I have no idea) rests on twin pillars of nationalism and economic growth, and if the latter sputters out maybe they lean very heavily on the former to disastrous effect maybe. ig.

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      i suppose we do have precedent for this sort of thingpic.twitter.com/5xOoWQWIbB

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      the next chapter is a closer look at china's urban/rural divide in education attaching some graf's and such basically there is a segregated education system and rural-classified students (supermajority) are and have historically been hosedpic.twitter.com/RXMJzRNnqV

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      perhaps they should take out loanspic.twitter.com/2Rb7YfJ0XG

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    6. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      chapter wraps up with two additional claims which he will elaborate on later 1. "academic" high schools are probably fine but most students go to "vocational" diploma mills 2. in aggregate rural kids are probably stunted on account of malnutrition

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    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

      as an aside im surprised that these numbers (eg education rates) are available abroad I would have expected CCP to either goose them or suppress them because they look pretty bad not sure what to make of this

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    8. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 14

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      wondered about this like maybe china has a different view of what looks bad than the outside worldhttps://twitter.com/samlevine/status/1415487307973492736?s=19 …

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      My limited understanding is that cadres in rural locations are judged by stuff like buildings built, roads/track laid and economic growth in general, but k-12 is not a priority.
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    9. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

      chapter five seems to be a discussion of the vocational high school system, which is mostly free (unlike academic high schools) and modeled after germanys system so far they sound like normal high schools in that theyre not useful for getting jobspic.twitter.com/PGCWWvGQpC

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    10. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

      apparently the vocational high school thing was a 2002 initiative that actually made it into provincial policy goaling very excited to see how Campbell's Law played outpic.twitter.com/YntuTKxoVv

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

      "who could have predicted this"pic.twitter.com/faqkzy5rrA

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

          honestly though he's ticking through problems with the high schools (no one is learning anything, students are smoking in class, whatever) and comparing this to public high schools in a typical American city and im mostly thinking "looks like china has finally made it"

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

          it is disappointing to me that the authors are allegedly economists and discussing the topic of education and have not mentioned Spence even once

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        4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

          more anecdotes. apparently vocational majors are determined by policymakers rather than potential employers. this has led to things like students majoring in abacus use and repairing telephone booths and VCRs

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        5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 15

          overall im coming away suspecting that chinas vocational schools are indeed completely worthless as educational institutions but nb it probably wouldnt have taken much for me to believe this

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        1. petrified egg‏ @Przysuchy Jul 15
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          [discussing a hospital that has 500 administrators, but no doctors, nurses, or patients] James Hacker: You think it's functioning now? Mrs. Rogers: Minister, it's one of the best run hospitals in the country. It's up for the Florence Nightingale Award.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A …

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