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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      a parent cannot credibly commit to not caring for a grandchild that their kid has when their kid is not capable of raising their own child, for example and if they or people like them /don't/ do something then that grandchild will suffer greatly

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      government programs are really not helpful in a situation like this. her fundamental problem is not a lack of monetary resources but a lack of cognitive resources and there exist no functional means of transferring those.

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      this is not an original point but it really drives home the extent to which making a set of broadly-good life choices the default for most people in society was important, and their destruction by cognitively well-endowed people who could skate by without them a disaster

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      i had not expected to end up a social conservative on consequentialist grounds but here we are

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

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      there are many complaints about this thread. here I will comment on some solutions that have been discussed and others that have been tried or might be triedhttps://twitter.com/DistractedAnna/status/1411064196964495364?s=19 …

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      Anna @DistractedAnna
      This is indeed a sad story but sadder still are lives lost to the omnipotent moral busybodies who would try to make stupid people into smart ones by treating them poorly https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1411036677867401218 …
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    6. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      first Anna's comment. I do not expect that anything will make people "smart" in the general sense but I also expect there are probably gains from establishing better default choice sets, ie presenting good options to dumb people rather than leaving them to flounder

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    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      second is the option of the status quo, which mostly leads to capable people simply isolating themselves in functional enclaves and leaving everyone else to suffer

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    8. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      this is a stable choice in that it requires no energy inputs. it also has the obvious downside of lots of people leading awful lives. it might be optimal in the sense that theres nothing to be done anyway, cant deny that

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    9. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      one criticism levered was that older societies were also not particularly good at dealing with this problem and pointed to things like Magdalene laundries and such its a real problem! i guess am not proposing this as a solutionhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Laundries_in_Ireland …

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    10. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      later Progressives were fond of and really even defined by their advocacy for eugenics eg, see Buck v Bell (1927), regarding forced sterilization. it has never been overturned incidentally I do not favor thishttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell …

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

      more what actually seems to work is what the Mormons have done in Utah. see @asymmetricinfo's nice piece on thishttps://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=5111151&itype=CMSID …

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        1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 2

          regrettably I would hate living in this kind of social environment but as I age I see the appeal on the current margin

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        1. petrified egg‏ @Przysuchy Jul 2
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          maybe mormon utah was seeded by a pretty selected population in the first place tho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Trail … hardiness required

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        1. Colette Washington  🇺🇸 🏳️‍⚧️ 🎮‏ @InfraredArmy Jul 2
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          she could've sold me better on the claim that utah is totally pro-lgbt+ if she hadn't dropped it right after the (very true!) section about how marriage is Actually Important

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jul 3
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          this would accomplish a lot although I think theres more than that

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        1. Rational Bot‏ @Rationalbot Jul 2
          Replying to @eigenrobot @asymmetricinfo

          Is this selection again

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        2. NLRG Loves Recursive Guises‏ @NLRG_ Jul 2
          Replying to @eigenrobot @asymmetricinfo

          my people have been mentioned

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        3. all-paca father‏ @OneEyedAlpaca Jul 2
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          they got something right?? wth

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        1. Mind(t)‏ @mindsovertime Jul 2
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          People need (shared) values. Modern society is superb at destroying values and piss poor at creating them.

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        1. Samuel J. Howard‏ @Jahaza Jul 3
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          Much too soon to tell with the Mormons.

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