the ability of the dysfunctional extended family to interfere in this counterproductive manner, as you can see here, is being enabled entirely by government programs that are supposed to be helpful
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second is the option of the status quo, which mostly leads to capable people simply isolating themselves in functional enclaves and leaving everyone else to suffer
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this is a stable choice in that it requires no energy inputs. it also has the obvious downside of lots of people leading awful lives. it might be optimal in the sense that theres nothing to be done anyway, cant deny that
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one criticism levered was that older societies were also not particularly good at dealing with this problem and pointed to things like Magdalene laundries and such its a real problem! i guess am not proposing this as a solutionhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Laundries_in_Ireland …
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later Progressives were fond of and really even defined by their advocacy for eugenics eg, see Buck v Bell (1927), regarding forced sterilization. it has never been overturned incidentally I do not favor thishttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell …
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more what actually seems to work is what the Mormons have done in Utah. see
@asymmetricinfo's nice piece on thishttps://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=5111151&itype=CMSID …Show this thread -
regrettably I would hate living in this kind of social environment but as I age I see the appeal on the current margin
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One BIG issue is that the law is a backstop for social defaults, and without the law, the social default will erode. George Will wrote about this in "Statecraft as Soulcraft". His go-to example was that laws banning racial discrimination led to its social unacceptability.
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If you want good social defaults, you need to make straying too far from them illegal. But legislators (who are in theory smart) don't want those laws to apply to them, so if there's enforcement, it's arbitrary and unjust. And if there isn't enforcement, the social norm erodes.
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