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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      eigenrobot Retweeted elle

      good thread from elle a long time ago i was in a really bad relationship that was both physically and emotionally abusive the physical abuse was basically risible to me and didnt even register. the other stuff messed me up a bit (im basically fine now) what i think is,https://twitter.com/ellegist/status/1402028775785779206 …

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      elle @ellegist
      musing on this men in particular seem to believe that the worst thing that can happen to you, or the worst part of violence/coercion, is the physical damage this is so obviously wrong it actually becomes hard to explain https://twitter.com/deepfates/status/1401940594004463621 …
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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      theres not really any good way of handling bad actors and utility monsters in a trauma framework its a matter of imperfect information. if someone demands special treatment because they were traumatized another party basically has no way of knowing whether this is true

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      and even if it is true, how "reasonable" in a sense that trauma is

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      so theres a certain amount of consideration you have to give to the costs of accommodating any persons claimed trauma and also consideration of how likely it is that this trauma is genuine at all

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      "all trauma is fake and dumb" is not true although i respect people who dont want to pay accommodation costs "believe all people claiming trauma and accommodate them maximally" is turning yourself into a doormat and enabling sociopaths

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

      generally i think we probably overaccommodate trauma now, vs probably underaccommodating it say thirty years ago iraq II may have been the turning point. a lot of people were coming back with diagnosed PTSD from eg seeing their friends killed or maimed by IEDs

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

          overall i blame tumblr. thank you for coming to my ted talk

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7

          addendumpic.twitter.com/z2rhNyli3o

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        2. Avid Halaby‏ @AvidHalaby Jun 7
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          Avid Halaby Retweeted Avid Halaby

          On this point, we should recognize that the majority of people who go through traumatic experiences end up fine. We've memed ourselves into thinking that being traumatized is the natural response to terrible events, when in fact people are very resilient.https://twitter.com/AvidHalaby/status/1388963214470352896 …

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          Avid Halaby @AvidHalaby
          You'd never know it from The Discourse, but the most common response to loss and trauma is psychological resilience, not extreme grief or PTSD. pic.twitter.com/4Alq077Utq
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        3. Avid Halaby‏ @AvidHalaby Jun 7
          Replying to @AvidHalaby @eigenrobot

          This isn't to say some people don't experience long-term psychological effects from traumatic events, but like you say we should revise our priors down.

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        2. Joachim Mörlin‏ @JoachimMorlin Jun 7
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          1. do you think iraq PTSD recognition was the trigger for recognizing sexual abuse of women, though? 2. why didn’t this happen when people identified and named “shell-shock?”

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 7
          Replying to @JoachimMorlin

          I think the abuse of women trauma thing came slightly later. hunch is it was maybe built on top of Iraq concepts. probably didnt come out of shell shock because who knows honestly. society less therapy language centric maybe

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        2. Best Think Twice‏ @BestThinkTwice Jun 7
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          I hear about over accommodating on social media but never see it irl. It might be a regional thing though. Where I live asking for accomodations of any kind is a career poison pill that can follow you from job to job.

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        3. Best Think Twice‏ @BestThinkTwice Jun 7
          Replying to @BestThinkTwice @eigenrobot

          Ohio fwiw

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        2. KURT‏ @KurtKendricks Jun 7
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          CPTSD is also getting some awareness now along with the realization that there is a wide difference between a soldier who undergoes a single incident of trauma and a child who is raised in trauma, to the point where their brain chemistry and shape physically alters.

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        3. KURT‏ @KurtKendricks Jun 7
          Replying to @KurtKendricks @eigenrobot

          A soldier, if they had a good upbringing, can remember the before time. The truly misfortunate child grows up with the sympathetic nervous system constantly engaged, a relentless, exhausting existence of fight or flight mode.

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