my apologies to curzi for this extended response that he did not ask for <3
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Fwiw I don’t have beef with the concept of egregores per se. I’m thinking about the spiritual/psychological level, which is to say that when people come in with a mindset of ‘reenchantment’ in a way that digs them deeper into despair about materialism, I hate it lol
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This is less about formal belief or intellectual defense of the ideas and just more about what literal mental actions are being taken. I feel like I’m watching people do that thing where if they stopped moving the quicksand wouldn’t suck them in but instead they’re like AaaaaaAAA
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Re the ideas themselves there is still something to work out tho. Am thinking of three genres: 1. ‘Meaningless’ materialism 2. Materialism and spiritual meaning unified 3. Spiritual worldview which forgets materialism Your points about egregores (and
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defense of or contribution to (2). Also
@nosilverv For what it’s worth I consider myself part of the same project. This video is an example - I’m trying to reconcile with the idea of God and prayer. https://youtu.be/o1LnX4dWzks I think it’s cool for THIS project to exist on a...2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes -
Replying to @michaelcurzi @eigenrobot and
... substantially intellectual level. That is to say, for it to be worked out with explicit verbal defenses of concepts like egregores. That’s good work that brings us towards a unification of spiritual and material. It’s clarifying Then there’s a second project which is...
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... spiritual combat to clarify the minds of men EVEN IF THAT CLARIFICATION occurs via energy blasting or performance. In other words the fool jibbers and jabbers and you say ‘ham ’ in the right tone and he recognizes the error of his ways Goodness flashing it’s colors & so on
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Which is just a way to say that the work occurs on multiple levels. In other words, an explicit defense of egregores is useful for the first project. But if the guy in the quicksand is like SEE! SEE! waving the paper with the argument around as he struggles harder, that’s bad, &
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sometimes I’d rather hit em w a “God despises your verbalisms, WORM” with a crooked pointing Finger so they’re so shocked that they drop the paper and say “oh..
I don’t believe in demons at all...just hated school... Fuckin... help me from the muck pls”https://twitter.com/michaelcurzi/status/1365226583900962816?s=21 …michael curzi added,
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𝐸𝓃𝒹 An essay for your essay. This is fun
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no I love it :D i was not aware of group (3) exactly--now that you name it I can maybe think of some motivating examples. most of my participation in this Conflict has been poking fun at (1) in pursuit of (2) and now I need to get reoriented and think about what ive done
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it's fascinating w (3) bc ppl coming out of (1) (fuckload of people that you &i know!) often 'forget' that (1) is where they're coming from. so they don't say some synthesis thing, they say 'spirituality is good actually'. but we could just be like... buying crystals.
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and yeah yeah chad just buys crystals because they work haha, ok great, good energy, but also this is how transmission of intellectual traditions fails. the next generation (construed whichever way) doesn't 'get the joke'
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