apparently they are arguing about whether they can admit the possibility of submerged cities this leads me to a new rare opinion that civilization is older than we know, the first ancient cities were coastal and simply lie beneath the waveshttps://twitter.com/ded_ruckus/status/1380257857371660291 …
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checks out although you need to allow a looooong timelinehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messinian_salinity_crisis …
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