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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      if you want to push for something like that, probably best to boil it down to something that can be encapsulated by a three to five word slogan (really)

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      all of *these* very large movements ultimately had quite broad intellectual support in advance, which should tell you something about intellectuals. but if you want to sway them it is important to become someone who intellectuals want to listen to first

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      a good way to do this perhaps is just to start hanging out on blogs and in comment sections and leaving incandescently brilliant comments. or at least thoughtful ones. freddie deboer and scott alexander got their start doing this sort of thing, freddie especially

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      ii. it might be worth thinking about what sort of change or small set of changes are most important to you, and think about how to accomplish them using the most modest means possible. large changes inevitably disadvantage a large number of powers who will be natural opponents

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      iii. for something like the US global empire, it might be worth spending some time thinking carefully about why it exists, what props it up, and what would happen to all of these social needs in its absence. the advantage of this is twofold

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    6. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      first, understanding why there are lots of powers propping up endless war etc by the US might give you a set of ideas about what other mechanisms might satisfy the desires of those powers and so give you a way of not making them your enemy

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    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      second, it lets you anticipate some potential failure modes for your agenda to avoid things like (eg) starving tens of millions of people when you collectivize land and kill a bunch of people who know how to farm the land. (but for international military power)

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    8. Unfortunately Not Thomas Jefferson‏ @RatifyGuy1776 Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      That's why, although I obviously haven't produced very many details about it, I was specific in reminding people that the government and the people are adversaries in my model. My "civil network" and "global protectorate" are an attempted framework for adversaries to cooperate.

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    9. Unfortunately Not Thomas Jefferson‏ @RatifyGuy1776 Mar 25
      Replying to @RatifyGuy1776 @eigenrobot

      Being unable to solve the problem of the government being bad, ensure that the people are not loyal to it, and enshrine this conflict in the founding documents.

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    10. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @RatifyGuy1776

      i think this too is a very tricky problem. i mean there are a lot of elements to it, countless, but some off the top of my head are

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot @RatifyGuy1776

      i. ok so how do you prevent a global protectorate from becoming exploitative itself ii. if we massively decentralize what stops people from centralizing and squashing less organized groups iii. how are you going to get buy in from the CCP

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        2. Unfortunately Not Thomas Jefferson‏ @RatifyGuy1776 Mar 25
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          i. That was part of why I suggested letting the masses have easy access to the surveillance network. Yes, I'm asking the known cheater to play fair this time. Realistically, there's little else to be done.

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        3. Unfortunately Not Thomas Jefferson‏ @RatifyGuy1776 Mar 25
          Replying to @RatifyGuy1776 @eigenrobot

          ii. I feel like my model addresses this issue through careful choice of what is and isn't decentralized. Centralize need, decentralize culture. The elites would probably love this plan if we actually put it to them. It's much less hassle.

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