one more thing about Paul Fussell, while we're talking about _Class_ that book is a lot of fun, but I think _The Great War and Modern Memory_ might be more important
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TGWMM chronicles the change in cultural and intellectual mores that occurred in the early 20C, as a result of the first World War it's the story of a civilization committing suicide, told through its literature
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he introduced the antebellum era in particular--an alien place for the 20C reader--before contrasting it with what came after its ideas died at Verdun and the Somme and Passchendaele
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It may be very different but it's far from alien
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i wonder if people used to believe in things without irony in a way that's not even possible today, simply because we know that irony is an option
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Certainly plausible - why is that important? And by that I don't mean "I don't think it is," I mean what do you think that entail(s/d) or cause(s/d)
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I'm not sure what it would be like, I can only kind of imagine (see QT) in practice it may have permitted certain kinds of organization at scale that really couldn't happen today; this feels like a mixed bag. ww1 certainly feels like one of thosehttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1147328485418946560?s=19 …
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Interesting - would that not imply, though, or imply the possibility of, the flip side of the coin; that certain kinds of organization at scale that were previously inaccessible now are?
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Not to chide with the allegorical "ha see all changes are neutral, all remains in perfect balance, stop caring sissy!" I'm pondering the nitty-gritty of it, which doors were open, which doors closed, and which doors are newly open if any
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yeah i think so or maybe there are certain kinds of scaled heterogeneity that are possible not that wouldn't have been before i bet it's easier to live as a certain kind of malcontent or dissident today
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The former seems likely to me, the latter...well that'd get me all sorts of into the weeds hahaha It's a lot to wrap your head around, even for robots In chess, the position eventually simplifies
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I should know, I'm 80 pages into the Bobby Fischer chess book
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