episode 22: eigenrobot vs extropy
a few days ago I spoke with @jd_pressman At Length about the history of rationalism, focusing especially on the intellectual antecedents (not so often discussed)
this episode is two point two five hours longhttps://soundcloud.com/user-557955426/episode-22-eigenrobot-vs-extropy …
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that accomplished, we loop back to Alfred Korzybski, who more or less did everything that yudkoswki did, but two generations prior, and with a slightly different bent he was the origin of "the map is not the territory," incidentally
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we later covered Yud's more immediate intellectual roots in the Extropian community, and the manner in which he caused a Tofflerian schism in that transhumanist group and one instance in which
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this podcast was a wild fucking ride. massive props to
@jd_pressman for the enormous amount of work he put into this--my major contribution was occasionally making jokes and responding with appropriate amazementShow this thread -
while afaik I am still blocked by Yud, I hope he takes the occasional ribbings in this podcast in good humor (they are so intended), and deployed in the context of them as "here is how you are like a major intellectual figure of the 20th century"
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finally: you can listen to the Dead Authors Podcast about L. Ron Hubbard at the below links (two parts) and you should probably do that first because it's incredible and ALSO covers a hell of a lot of 20C intellectual history https://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-1-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andrew-daly … https://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-2-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andy-daly …
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@jd_pressman writes at https://www.wrestlinggnon.com/ . check him out :)Show this thread - End of conversation
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holy cow this sounds like a wild ride
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i need to listen to this to update on my suspicion that yudkowsky's ideas are a lot better than lesswrong's as a whole
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