ninety seconds in @selentelechia has begged me to put on headphones
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"its ridiculous to think that someone who works for the new york times has it out for this niche blog"
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long discussion of selection bias into the times and how this might be bad feels a bit desultory
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bob: "one allegation that has been made about nyt is that its suffused with woke sensibilities and perhaps scott's defenders are alleging this. [cites complaint from scott's response and calls it legitimate]" glad bob is pushing back
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ww: "yes this is misleading and bad writing. but if we interpret it charitably we can remember that murray wrote the bell curve and scott agreed with him. so i guess it was shitty but it wasnt malice. . . . it wasnt a great article"
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ww: "ultimately this community is not telling its members that reaction isnt off the table"
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wilkinson trying to get through an explanation of neocameralism bob ties it back to larry summers darkly humorous
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ww: "we have to enforce norms about what its ok to say in public"pic.twitter.com/qE3KiFD4jc
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bob: "maybe rationalists are constitutively against reading the room" i think thats right and i think its beautiful
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ww: "and thats a slippery slope from liberal toleration of an unfettered marketplace of ideas to . . . right wing shit stirring" sir. shit stirring has no party
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ww now seems to be arguing that shit stirrers are MAKING the left be censorious and oppressive stop making me hit you etc
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ww: "this dude wanted to write a story. no ill will. [ . . . ] ok it seems no one actually knows what the rules are. [ . . . ] and scott just flips is fucking wig and kills his blog. and some of them try to cancel cade metz!!!!" can you imagine the gall
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ww: "nyt could not think more of itself. its kind of unhumiliatable" generally speaking i find a strong positive correlation between an entitys self-regard and the ease of humiliating that entity and the nyt is a strong case study in this matter
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bob: "i dont think [scott is] imagining that this was kind of a negative piece" ww: "but what happened to cade metz!!!!"
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wilkinson is REALLY mad about people criticizing metz idk man i thought nyt was huge. i thought they didnt care this is actually somewhat satisfying to listen to
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its very strange to me im listening to journalists talking about how weird it is that people even IMAGINE the possibility that journalists deliberately try to go and crush people how fucking dumb do you think we are
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man who was just fired for a joke tweet: "why was [scott] so fucking scared of people scouring his web site"
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bob: "there may have been an overreaction that did not work in [the rationalists] favor in terms of how this piece came out" stop resisting
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ww: the problem with rationalism is a lack of diversity. too many autists. this is a signal that rationalism is not attractive to everyone. different people would come to different conclusions than rationalists would
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ww: if everyone is similar you are biased. *snap* the only way to become unbiased is to confront people with different views yes. well. consider this an exercise in such. and consider speaking with more nonjournalists about how they view your field
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oh bob is very kind and suggests he would like to speak with more rationalists. I will create a thread to deal with this ask. my esteem of bob has risen overall in this conversation.
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