My knee-jerk response too.https://twitter.com/DogPhoenixWP/status/1349877754897051655?s=19 …
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overall my suspicion is that the conditions for defending "people may say what they like" are the same as "people may vote as they like" and if you want to restrict the former you may as well formalize it by calling it quits on the latter too
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Replying to @eigenrobot
Sounds very much like an American train of thought. First of all, your conclusion is right. And this is what happens (e.g. In Germany we forbid political parties that aim to abolish our constitution, aka Neonazis and communists as a protection of our democratic system. History.)
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i sort of think if you dont trust your people to not vote for Bad People why are you even bothering with voting like you get to vote in China too
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Replying to @ulfgardleo @eigenrobot
history lesson: the majority of the German parliament was split between communist (the real ones) KPD and the Nazis. The christs signaled they would vote for Goering, the center/left could not unite behind KPD and then the Nazis were in charge without a majority.
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Replying to @ulfgardleo @eigenrobot
Hilter used his power to declare emergency laws, dissolve parliament and banned public gatherings. In what followed, he won the "election" which was not so hard since the KPD could not really participate in it anymore.
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if im understanding this correctly the lesson is to do what hitler did and block your opponents from political participation
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Yes, but the way he achieved that was (since the president was not as powerful) to club the member sof KPD to death. The SS as part of the NSDAP (so no governmental institution) was on the streets killing people. The lessons were "Wehrhafte Demokratie":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_democracy#Germany …
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we mostly do this but let people own gunspic.twitter.com/vkqGlke5wK
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i think the romans did it best tho
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