Its a patriotism based on a very mythologised telling of history, if you read the rest of the thread.
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the biggest mistake people make with myths is believing theyre not true
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Not sure I know what you mean by that. I think I got my threads confused since I was actually thinking of this tweet you made as a follow-up to "ragtag army drunk on liberty" https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1330614981188939776 … The French were instrumental to the American Revolution.
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This just doesn't square with my understanding of how America won its independence. Seems very mythologised to me, in the sense that YES, from a certain angle it is true but within a greater context.https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1330612966849277952 …
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Also worth noting that the British Empire was nowhere near the most powerful in 1776. It would sort of be like Canada saying it defeated the global superpower because of the failure of America forces to invade British Canada in 1812
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what would you identify as the most powerful state on earth in 1776? The British had footholds in India and China already; had just won the Seven Years' War; were easily the richest country on earth in practical terms holland richer per capita, but quite smallpic.twitter.com/KAU0BJXuLf
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china was probably richer in absolute terms, but had no ability to project force globally (a feat that really only Britain was capable of as far as I know)
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I would place France up there as poorer but more able to project power globally than the British. I wonder why that chart doesn't have France on it, seems like an odd choice. I'd love to know how rich France actually was during that period. I'm basing this off of [some book]
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Similarly, the Ottoman empire was also fairly prosperous around this time, but lacked the power to project towards America and was in decline. An honorable mention. European powers also didn't have THAT much projection power until quinine in 1820.
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Mm, one sidenote: the Ottomans and the conflicts they were embroiled in during the 1700s actually bear quite a few resemblances to the American revolution. I was reading an article on the Hotaki war, where the tactics of the Afghans was...VERY CLEVER. Info war shit.
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oh interesting. do you have any reccs for 18C Ottoman history reading?
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If you haven't watched the Caspian Report on the decline of the Ottoman, it's great though mostly economic history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-SUlb4rwls … Haven't read Ottoman history recently, just Afghan (The Last Afghan Empire) and Chechen (Lone Wolf and The Bear) but they keep showing up!
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OH embarassing, I think this is what I was reading after I got curious about the Hotaki from the Afghan history stuff: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hotaki-persia-and-no-nadir-shah.266622/ … You hear a lot about Persians ruling Afghania, not vice versa, so this seems like an interesting idea
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