huh just realized I am still kinda like this has it now become unfashionable to think of the US as *the* grand experiment, mankind's prideful insult to Nature? Saying "fuck you, fuck tradition and class, we will do what we want, make the world we want to have"?https://twitter.com/senjatanuklir/status/1347035616618315776 …
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yeah ok looks like shit sucks right now and maybe the American Empire is on its decline but I'd still take whatever it is now over my current state of affairs in a hearbeat
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Amir Retweeted blissfully married srav
this is now an Ameriboo threadhttps://twitter.com/thesravaka/status/1346928558334214148?s=20 …
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@eigenrobot's patriotism is infectioushttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1312024333565394944?s=20 …Amir added,
eigenrobot @eigenrobot"no you cant be american that way americans have to be subject to the direct control of the US government" im sorry but if you find yourself leaning toward THAT argument your missing the entire goddamn point of America and you should go back and make out with the QueenShow this thread2 replies 0 retweets 23 likesShow this thread -
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Its a patriotism based on a very mythologised telling of history, if you read the rest of the thread.
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the biggest mistake people make with myths is believing theyre not true
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Saurya.meth Retweeted eigenrobot
Not sure I know what you mean by that. I think I got my threads confused since I was actually thinking of this tweet you made as a follow-up to "ragtag army drunk on liberty" https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1330614981188939776 … The French were instrumental to the American Revolution.
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Saurya.meth Retweeted eigenrobot
This just doesn't square with my understanding of how America won its independence. Seems very mythologised to me, in the sense that YES, from a certain angle it is true but within a greater context.https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1330612966849277952 …
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Also worth noting that the British Empire was nowhere near the most powerful in 1776. It would sort of be like Canada saying it defeated the global superpower because of the failure of America forces to invade British Canada in 1812
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what would you identify as the most powerful state on earth in 1776? The British had footholds in India and China already; had just won the Seven Years' War; were easily the richest country on earth in practical terms holland richer per capita, but quite smallpic.twitter.com/KAU0BJXuLf
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china was probably richer in absolute terms, but had no ability to project force globally (a feat that really only Britain was capable of as far as I know)
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I would place France up there as poorer but more able to project power globally than the British. I wonder why that chart doesn't have France on it, seems like an odd choice. I'd love to know how rich France actually was during that period. I'm basing this off of [some book]
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