old rousseau audiobook autoplayed when I was in the car earlier one thing that was striking was that he was very open about describing, if not a utopia, an optimal social order but in many ways his descendents seem to have abandoned this vision
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like the social left in particular doesnt seem to have any ability to depict what an ideal society looks like from their perspective (am i missing this?) "society as it exists is hopelessly Bad" very well what do you propose we do and what does a better world look like?
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i think there are some policy proposals floating around for the "what do we do" question, but most energy seems spent not on these measures (they seem like an afterthought, see the lists of demands occasionally submitted by protesters) and the actual desired outcome is unknown
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this is pretty interesting to me older movements, eg OG communists, were much more intellectually ordered "we will do X for reasons Y and it will result in Z which is good" what explains this discrepancy?
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I think you give too much credit to OG commies, they tended to have serious underpants gnomes issues where the messy middle of revolution -> ??? -> utopia was smoothed over
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oh sure but feels like current left has messy revolution -> ?? -> ??
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