old rousseau audiobook autoplayed when I was in the car earlier one thing that was striking was that he was very open about describing, if not a utopia, an optimal social order but in many ways his descendents seem to have abandoned this vision
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i think there are some policy proposals floating around for the "what do we do" question, but most energy seems spent not on these measures (they seem like an afterthought, see the lists of demands occasionally submitted by protesters) and the actual desired outcome is unknown
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this is pretty interesting to me older movements, eg OG communists, were much more intellectually ordered "we will do X for reasons Y and it will result in Z which is good" what explains this discrepancy?
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The same but with Me in charge.
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Read the Dialectic of Enlightenment if you want to understand why they are reticent on this point (sparknotes will suffice probably, Horkheimer and Adorno are incredibly self-indulgent)
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i would be happy to propose changes, just hard to explain on twitter
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Feel like the "what are you doing after the revolution" job threads are kind of this. It's just even more depressing than not having a vision
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I think they have it but it's still so far out the Overton that they can't talk about it out loud.
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https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1346168202053619712?s=20 … If I had to guess, it's to avoid the charges of "This country tried X and it led to Y," Y being millions of deaths, because the leftists that espouse these beliefs don't consider their thing to be X but Z. I'm not 100% sure on this but about 75%.
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