a thing that genuinely disgusts me are politicians who arent proud of the nations they serve they lack the courage of their convictions, their people can Tell, and their ultimately fall will be shameful
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was yelling about this with
@selentelechia, I dont recall how we got on the topic but it may have been world war one via tolkien via anti-aging via socialism destroying womens ability to have a fulfilling life outside of the marketplace3 replies 0 retweets 94 likesShow this thread -
she identified the british specifically as people who seem embarrassed to have been an empire at one point and are now basically a backwater which you know what fucking get over it you bastards are the heirs of Elizabeth and Pitt and you should act like it
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Replying to @eigenrobot
I get it, but it's a bit more complicated when you know the history up close? Mistakes Were Made, so I hear from the Irish and um others
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yes an enduring black mark how long to you intend to flagellate yourselves instead of doing new good things
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Replying to @eigenrobot
Yeah but the terrible stuff was pretty much inseparable from the Empire! stuff that is apparently so awesome. Also currently the Make Britain Great Again thing led to Brexit, which is probably going to be a huge economic disaster once it properly happens.
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Replying to @polyaletheia
you stopped the Germans on the Marne and stood firm against the Blitz and destroyed the global trade in slaves
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Replying to @eigenrobot
Yeah it's pretty cool and I get annoyed when people damage the Churchill statue, because whatever else he saved Britain, or at least represents saving Britain. But, you said, "embarrassed to have been an empire at one point", and, well,
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one can respond to errors of the past by becoming Large or shrinking in the face of them and becoming lesser
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Replying to @eigenrobot
I think in practice people just ignore the whole thing entirely and keep on doing what they're doing.
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this is the usual behaviour of a conquered people
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