chapman's histories are very helpful they're kind of hyperlinked all over but worth reading (or reading again) what's interesting to me is that atomization seems to have fallen away; there's maybe more personal atomization, but political Teams seem to be on the rise again (?)https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1320817247070212096 …
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Huh. I like
@Meaningness, but this doesn't strike me as true, especially on the right side. Like, I don't see much sign the moral majority holds much sway now, except maybe with those who were alive for it. Seems like neoconservatism and nationalism trumped(heh) it.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
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Yes: the current culture war is not the same as the 70s-80s one. (And the Moral Majority officially declared defeat 20 years ago.) Understanding Culture War I helps understand the causes of Culture War II, though, I think https://meaningness.com/countercultures-fail …pic.twitter.com/cU1F77vJTv
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I guess what I fail to see is many widespread elements of the modern American right that weren't evident prior to the MM, or came after. Judeo-Christian as a concept is the closet i can think of. Doesn't seem like the main figures have had much long term influence either.
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Thought about this some more. I think the current culture war feels more like a Vaisya vs Brahmin thing (in Moldbuggian terms) than something rooted in 60s/70s counterculture, and I guess that's my fundamental disagreement. Current right more hardhat than evangelical.
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I've been thinking about it more and I'm wondering if it's a longer, deeper sort of fight that doesn't have a name but occurs over and over again in history under different guises, and the pre-60s US was unusually free of it (for Reasons)
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Our current political divide is rooted in the culture war that began with the New Left & hippie counterculture in the 1960s-70s, versus the Evangelical counter-counterculture of the 70s-80s.
To better understand, I wrote a memetic history of that war: