I get what you're saying, but where would these people be with two less CHA points? Also, I... I mean, you seem really nice, but 18 CHA is hard to believe from anybody, especially if they tell you that
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The only person who ever told me something like "I'm 18 CHA" did it really indirectly and slyly in a context that made me feel specially trusted with this information even though it was tremendously obvious and I still smile when I think about the interaction I barely knew him
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I'm with Sasha on this fwiw CHA is incredibly, mind-bendingly powerful at small scales and large alike
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This is obvious nonsense, based on the existence of a) the charming, but broke musician, b) the success rate for professional actors, and c) bartenders.
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Yeah, also, I mean... I've known a couple of very charming super mediocre musicians who through charm have ended up collaborating with super talented people and then they have minor success Second-order effects of CHA are the big part of the picture you're maybe missing
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Sharing example from my personal life; there's this guy I'd peg at about 17 CHA, actual piece of shit, atrocious victimizer, I've fantasized about punching him, and... I have to struggle to not like him when we speak, he emits a field, and it's not effortful
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all kinds of charisma are exactly the same 
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