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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      (ii) why does any of this shit matter well maybe it doesnt hammer, nail, etc but it does seem to me that we are suffering a certain sort of epistemological crisis

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      looping back to the motivating conversation: it seems to me that we are very much in a sort of epistemological interregnum traditional Knowledge Authorities--universities, media, religion--have lost the mandate of heaven

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      i can imagine at least two causes one I talk about here with @collinofzion--this is an old story, but its simply a printing press-to-Reformation analogue universities and media authority relied on distributional barriers, and the Internet broke thosehttps://youtu.be/Gey0RPfR0kQ 

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      this has been building for a while, and is arguably even older than the internet--look at the proliferation of alternate right media in the 80s, or underground left media in the 60s and 70s the internet and social media in particular blew everything wide open, tho

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      covid has been a second and acute disaster for traditional information authority experts fucked it up their mandate was to predict, prevent, and mitigate this sort of unusual event and they failed they failed embarrassingly badly and others did not fail

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    6. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      things like the replication crisis and rampant politicization have been eating away at institutional academic authority for a while, but that was mostly inside baseball and a slow boil compared to fucking up covid you_had_one_job.jpg

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    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 13 Sep 2020

      in summary this is what I am thinking is a major social role of our corner of twitter our epistemological system is broken; the mandate of heaven is up for grabs @wesyang talks about a successor ideology, but i am more interested in the successor epistemology

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    8. mattgiammarino‏ @mattgiammarino 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot @wesyang

      Very interesting Robot, thank you!!! What about action? The mandate of heaven isn't given to those who *know* a lot, is it? Do you think action and epistomology can be decoupled without accidentally embodying the mandate of the devil? What is the successor action plan?!pic.twitter.com/aeAdeQy4eU

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    9. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Sep 2020
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      I wouldnt know anything about that :D Idk I mostly see action as following knowledge ideally action can be restricted to boring shit as you go about your daily life not much has changed therepic.twitter.com/V3eOymuLap

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    10. mattgiammarino‏ @mattgiammarino 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot @wesyang

      Also, you're pointing out, very helpfully, that some people believe action follows knowledge. Pretty sure that's an epistomology! I wonder what the alternatives are and how they might improve knowledge production.

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Sep 2020
      Replying to @mattgiammarino

      I think im resistant to this line of thought because it's far too generalized Action is extremely indexical maybe

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        1. mattgiammarino‏ @mattgiammarino 14 Sep 2020
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          Ok, I had to look up what indexical meant. (lots of learning here, thx rbt).

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        2. mattgiammarino‏ @mattgiammarino 14 Sep 2020
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          Hmmm, really? Isn't it knowledge the indexical party here? e.g. Your (very valid and awesome) project/thread will be somewhat impotent without telling us how these various knowledge producers use their knowledge, and how they spread it to others for evolution and use.

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        3. mattgiammarino‏ @mattgiammarino 14 Sep 2020
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          I think there is an epistomlogical temperment that likes to ignore this "how you gonna use it" part of the problem because it is distressing to consider, and reduces certainty and clarity of knowledge. (This should be one of the groups!!!)pic.twitter.com/CELpxk7Evp

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