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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @yashkaf

      nice try ive been to too many solstice parties to believe this

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. Jakeup‏ @yashkaf 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      Is there a single thing associated with the Rationalist (tm) brand you're willing to admit to sincerely liking or would that ruin your street cred forever?

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @yashkaf

      oh sure! off the top of my head scott's irreplaceable, early EA around charity efficacy was fantastic, Hanson's earlier work was a great help to me

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Jakeup‏ @yashkaf 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      My sense is that the real reason you don't want to like circling is not because it's a hippy cult or manipulative or touchy feely, but because it's about legibility. So are many other Rationalist things like polyamory and CFAR and making bets on object level things.

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @yashkaf

      eigenrobot Retweeted eigenrobot

      there is some of that--i am very suspicious of legibility otoh i owe someone $20 thank you for reminding mehttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1288199215122849792?s=19 …

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      eigenrobot @eigenrobot
      Replying to @johnsmi77588411 @diviacaroline
      If you're confident, wanna go 20:1? Happy to pay you $20 if it doesn't fail, take $400 if it does
      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. Jakeup‏ @yashkaf 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      By and large, rats are happy if others understand them better, especially if it lets you understand yourself. Post rats are prob worried this makes you vulnerable to predators? I think that being weird protects against predators, as is being legible to friends for coordination.

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @yashkaf

      There's some of that Some of it is just a neurotype, probably Partly some illegibility is socially load-bearing A lot of it is that object-level legible expression is typically expensive and inefficient relative to metalegible expression

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot @yashkaf

      Ask and Tell Culture are very popular but Guess Culture works better in an attuned group

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    9. Jakeup‏ @yashkaf 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      My general view of this is that people are 90% illegible to each other, with rats it's maybe down to 80%, not 10%. That's why everyone loves a good "guesser" who anticipates your desires, even nerds. We're not actually robots with a source code one can read 😜

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @yashkaf

      I think people are quite a lot more interpretable than that! But it doesn't usually translate to a legible model so easily Like, I bet you could make a good guess about how your close friends would behave in a wide variety of situations; acquaintances in a good many; and so on

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
      Replying to @eigenrobot @yashkaf

      But if you were to sit down and try to explain your reasoning for your prediction you'd probably end up with a bunch of just-so stories, or stray anecdotes that don't pass any kind of empirical test Hardly anything that you could translate to a general model

      11:21 PM - 1 Sep 2020
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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
          Replying to @eigenrobot @yashkaf

          (I could be completely wrong about this, I probably interpret other people differently than . . . other people)

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 1 Sep 2020
          Replying to @eigenrobot @yashkaf

          For me anyway there are a lot of things that work perfectly well or even better in an inchoate or cryptic mode than they do when I try to rigorously demonstrate my reasoning, and often the demonstration is actually a little painful and "feels fake"

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