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    1. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      So there's concentric circles, with a tight core, some middle bands, and the periphery. Which circle you're in DOESN'T correlate much with how serious you are about epistemology / growth / figuring out the world / becoming stronger / whatever.

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    2. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      As the years tick by, people's personal practices improve. Folks are exploring and running into core blockers and finding solutions to them. So some people in the core, who started by focusing on Fermi estimates and Aumann-ing, discover Focusing and Circling.

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    3. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      They learn to respect Chesterton's fences, both internally and culturally. They move towards a paradigm of internal dialogue. They realize that emotions are important, and narratives are important, and ontologies are important.

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    4. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      But this doesn't happen uniformly in the core (there are still folks there who are really into fermi estimates, next to the people who are into trauma-healing), and these discoveries don't propagate from the core through the concentric circles very fast at all.

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    5. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      So the people on the periphery are mostly engaging with the rationalist material of 2009-10. And some of the people on the periphery, who also got a lot from the sequences, are making similar realizations about what's important as some of the people in the rationalist core, are.

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    6. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      So there are multiple groups following parallel trajectories. But the rationalists in the core, feel inclined to think of this as just an extension of "rationality", because they identify as rationalists.

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    7. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      The folks on the periphery, are more inclined to think of it as a different thing, separate from "rationality", which to them, mostly means the rationality of 2009-10. So they call it post-rationality, because they grew out of the the rationality phase.

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    8. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      (Again, I think I'm missing things about what people mean by post rationality, so...this is only a posit.)

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    9. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      When I was reading this page, for instance, my thought was that this was obviously important, but that I think that Eliezer or Anna would just include "meta-rationality" as part of "Rationality." It wouldn't be something totally new to them.https://meaningness.com/eggplant/rationality …

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    10. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 24 Aug 2020

      Is this story on point? Or am I missing something important?

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 24 Aug 2020
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      you're not exactly correct but it is mostly about which parties people are going to

      11:06 PM - 24 Aug 2020
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        1. Eli Tyre‏ @EpistemicHope 25 Aug 2020
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          I think you have a point.

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