And if it turns out that they were trained that this restraint method is safe and effective, we're looking at reasonable doubt as to mens rea in this case. If we had a responsible news media, I'd expect this to lead to some re-analysis of the situation.
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Replying to @thepiclord @toad_spotted and
Is choking is "safe and effective" on a person who you call an ambulance for who says they can't breathe?
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Replying to @PittLabs @toad_spotted and
Does the knee-to-neck restraint actually cause choking? Is there settled science on this matter? And if they were *trained* that it was safe and effective, why would they expect him to die from it?
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Replying to @thepiclord @toad_spotted and
Tazers are safe and effective. Except if someone has a pacemaker. If you know someone has a pacemaker, do you still stubbornly think its safe? I don't know the science. But not kneeling on someones neck who is having trouble breathing seems like common sense to me.
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Replying to @PittLabs @thepiclord and
It was a bad decision, given what's come after. Describing it as murder seems absurd
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Replying to @toad_spotted @thepiclord and
IANAL, but 2nd degree murder doesn't seem absurd to me: "second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life."
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Replying to @PittLabs @thepiclord and
"Intentional murder with malice aforethought, but not premeditated or planned in advance."
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Replying to @toad_spotted @thepiclord and
Isn't that first degree? They charged him with 2nd, right?
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Replying to @PittLabs @thepiclord and
First degree requires premeditation.
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theres a long medium post about this unsure where dissecting this in gory detail among other things it noted that (i) the officers said out loud they thought he was suffering from "excited delerium" and (ii) the MPD rulebook prescribes officers do exactly what Chauvin did
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Replying to @eigenrobot @PittLabs and
there was also a ton of analysis of the force involved in kneeling on someone's neck given a person of various weights . . . not sure how much I trust that but let me just dig it up
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