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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

      (draft) some levels of tolerance in the SSC sense 1. actively supporting/defending outgroups weird habits 2. paying Outgroup no mind 3. avoiding Outgroup when possible 4. taking actions likely to harm Outgroup (negligent) 5. taking actions likely to harm Outgroup (malice)

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

      I think setting actions of various factions according to this scheme is likely to be useful in evaluating certain contemporary group behaviors

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

      While I support (1) when possible group relations at (2) and (3) are vastly preferable to those at (4) and (5) and I wish people would put more weight on the notion of second-bests and on /relatively/ good outcomes

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

          Trying to force (1) by progressively more coercive means is I think likely to backfire in the long or even medium term. I think you only get their from bottom up dynamics, trying to force it from the top probably fosters mutual resentment

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

          And when there are genuine and insoluble disputes between groups (1) is likely impossible in any case. Inna final analysis (2) and (3) are pretty good compared to the set of likely alternatives.

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        4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020

          Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

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        2. Marv, The Cynically Depressed Android‏ @AnnoyedMandroid 29 Jun 2020
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          You are advocating for a nuanced approach in 2020. Good luck.

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 29 Jun 2020
          Replying to @AnnoyedMandroid

          if for no ones good but my own

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        2. post malone ergo propter malone‏ @PropterMalone 29 Jun 2020
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          i think people put a lot of weight on that, particularly people in outgroups

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        3. post malone ergo propter malone‏ @PropterMalone 29 Jun 2020
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          American political history in terms of outgroup participation is a long-term, heroic effort to move from 5 to about an optimistic 3

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        1. Robot Bastard!‏ @Robot_Bastard 29 Jun 2020
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          the issue is people who A) insist that any outgroup-harming action is, at worst, morally neutral and B) insist that anyone who thinks differently actually supports the outgroup.

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        1. unique indemnifier‏ @fmd4cp 29 Jun 2020
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          oh hey, woah woah, we got a "the perfect is the enemy of the good" guy over here ~all of your fellow American compatriots

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        1. Eric Richards‏ @EricRichards22 29 Jun 2020
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          2/3 seems to me like the ideal state of affairs. But I dislike all people, and prefer to pay no mind or avoid even the ingroup.

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