the reporter is rapidly becoming the story
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meanwhile, local freelance bluecheck maintains remarkable beginner mindset with respect to Journalism And Its Consequences this is the kind of naive perspective I crave from people with bylineshttps://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1275554109320503297?s=19 …
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just imagine a world without the
@nytimes! I've never unironically promoted a hash before but per@balajis, fuck it,#ghostnyt https://twitter.com/ChristinaAsquit/status/1275465028137869314?s=19 …pic.twitter.com/KL46st5PX8Show this thread -
other news:
@Scholars_Stage is putting together a letter to NYT. If you fit these criteria and are able to safely sign given your personal circumstances, please consider dropping him a DM https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1275538549547372547?s=19 …This Tweet is unavailable.Show this thread -
meanwhile, in the case of
@davidshor: news about internal dynamics of a journalist listserv I post to add color re internal dynamics of one journo social space, and extremely not to Own the Libs, please and thank you. This is not a time or place for that https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html?__twitter_impression=true …Show this thread -
Continuing on this point, my impression is that journalism is in some ways a remarkably rarefied and idiosyncratic culture. When attempting to exert external force on a social space, it's best to have an understanding of its internal dynamics. (protip for
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Here's Scott Aaronson's post on the matter. He's a sweetheart.https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=4870
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@nytimes may indeed be having a worse month than Scott wonder how this affects things wrt this story less organizational dry powder for fighting back? internal incoherence --> they do something really stupid? hmmmmmmm https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1275567845578084355?s=19 …This Tweet is unavailable.Show this thread -
guys if we can get them to lay off just one more person wouldnt that be nice
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to be clear I would prefer no one be laid off ceteris paribus I would be delighted if they simply developed a good policy around doxxing people like Scott still I will never fail in my duty to the sex number jokehttps://twitter.com/elmkast/status/1275576132239163393?s=19 …
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on the other hand this also seems better than the baseline of doxxing Scotthttps://twitter.com/Altimor/status/1275534446368702464?s=19 …
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commentary from writer at
@TheAtlantic and something or other at Yale opposing doxxing otoh, ironical bio,,,,,,, https://twitter.com/gcaw/status/1275458587414818817?s=19 …pic.twitter.com/AKEuiQCmDB
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referring earlier to comments re: internal journo comms, I think there is actually significance to these public statements by journalists for forming consensus around standards of practice consider the effect in your own circles of prominent figures taking such stances openly
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nb I have no idea what makes someone prominent in Journalism or what reflects social clout I assume bylines listed in bios are a somewhat good standin for prestige but I have no idea how to read the particulars
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these public statements are not cheap signals, either
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@nytimes, this would not surprise me at all unsure how to counter this most effectively entirely possible criticism makes them double down hard to say really
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hmm
@amber_athey at@SpectatorUSA has a piece pro Scott natch, rides the privacy angle hard still not stoked about right media bias in coverage, feels like another bit of partisan war which might be counterproductivehttps://spectator.us/new-york-times-private-slate-star-codex-blog/ …Show this thread -
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@dcexaminer This one is really tiresome honestly.@RT_com tier.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-york-times-threatens-to-out-science-blogger-after-protecting-identities-of-white-house-turncoats-and-chapo-trap-house-podcasters …Show this thread -
pithy observationhttps://twitter.com/Gent_Sausage/status/1275463806534238208?s=19 …
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no idea how to evaluate credibility but interesting take on Metz probably if this affair gets big enough it ends up a barroom brawl knives coming out all overhttps://medium.com/@garyweiss_86200/cade-metz-pulls-a-deep-capture-on-slate-star-codex-da649e8efe7 …
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from
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I appreciate the perspective although I wish that he had not put on a jacket without a collared shirt
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well well well this was perhaps inevitable NYT has a slack channel with 2000(!!) users apparent at least one dislikes what NYT is doing so much that he leaked news of the internal Discourse to
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as I think I mentioned above or elsewhere, hunch is that this gets resolved on the basis of dynamics internal to journalism as a profession or perhaps as a consequence of social structure of
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Looks like the story is in fact not dead https://twitter.com/asglidden/status/1278459220174573568?s=19 …
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hmm elsewhere,,, https://twitter.com/spakhm/status/1278223873951989761?s=19 …
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hmmmm veers from balanced to loving to occasionally schoolmarm-ish seems like there's not much story left for NYT unless it's "we talked to everyone with an axe to grind against Scott, who is now a Public Figure after New Yorker wrote on him" (??) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/slate-star-codex-and-silicon-valleys-war-against-the-media …
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