generally if youre going to make a Stand the last thing you want to do is hand over ammunition to the people who are about to charge your walls
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Replying to @eigenrobot @lordcataplanga
It's a good question what gives them more ammunition. You have so many followers, do you trust that no one will screenshot something you said? That deleting a tweet won't be seen as admission of malfeasance? Those who lie will find something to lie about, idk if hiding will help.
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If were literally conspiring against someone, it makes sense to hide information. But that's not what we're doing. Almost all rationalists are actively supporting the same good causes as everyone, aside from cancel culture.
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Replying to @yashkaf @lordcataplanga
I think Cancel Culture is the issue at hand Like we've maybe moved beyond "is cancel culture Good" to "can you be canceled for opposing cancel culture on principle while not having done anything else worthy of cancellation"
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Replying to @eigenrobot @lordcataplanga
Exactly. We should fight to make the answer to the latter "Fuck No" for people in our tribe. How many people will actually fight for canceling anyone opposed to cancel culture? Are there more of them then us? Are they smarter or stronger than us? We've got this.
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What does a tribe need to unite? A shared ideology, and a coordination point. "Fuck cancel culture" is our shared belief, "Scott is a treasure" is our coordination point. And we care much more about preserving our tribe than any journalist may care to bullshit about us.
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Can we find someone who has relatively little else they could possibly be cancelled for, and get them to loudly proclaim "fuck cancel culture" (probably with a bit more detail/nuance) and amplify that?
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Lots of people do that but it doesn't seem to have the desired effect; mostly they get blackballed and ignored by mainstream (I think?)
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Replying to @eigenrobot @Malcolm_Ocean and
Like where have the Christakises ended up? Or say Loury or McWhorter or Stilwell
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yeah but not coverage befitting his stature, similarly Loury and Stillwell theyre black sure but its the wrong Narrative
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