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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

      eigenrobot Retweeted Jakeup

      I have mixed feelings about this. Ultimately my hunch is that Making A Stand is somewhat a collective action problem and I don't see any mechanism for coordination among Grey Tribers, among other issueshttps://twitter.com/yashkaf/status/1273681454682312704 …

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      Jakeup @yashkaf
      Replying to @yashkaf @eigenrobot
      Seriously, almost everything wrong with the world right now is a result of cowardice and hypocrisy. Maybe we should fight it with some principled bravery instead? All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to hide and cower.
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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

      There are some remarkable cases where embracing martyrdom can act as a catalyst for broader heroism and coordination, but afaict martyrs mostly just end up dead

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

      Martyrdom is probably especially valuable when (i) a martyr is broadly loved as an individual, and (ii) there is at least some sympathy for the group they represent unfortunately Grey Tribe is mostly made of constitutional curmudgeons and weirdos /I/ love this, but Peoria? 😬

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

      re public sympathies: to be fair you have to have a very high iq to understand rationalism i mean this unironically blog post that I have been meaning to write once I get that up involves intellectual movements and broader adoption

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

      my hunch is that (i) whatever idea you have will not be broadly adopted unless it can be boiled down to a slogan that a -1sd person can shout (ii) the -1sd slogan will ultimately become the movements rallying cry so hammer that out early

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

          what would this be for rationalism? would you even want people to adopt it? consider the decay involved in the translation of eg Schlick and the Vienna Circle to IFuckingLoveScience

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 18 Jun 2020

          lots of tactics and strategy to discuss and develop ig, but tldr something something strauss

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        1. Reluctant Exister‏ @IriathZhul 18 Jun 2020
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          Reluctant Exister Retweeted Reluctant Exister

          https://twitter.com/IriathZhul/status/1235558578502561794 …

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          Reluctant Exister @IriathZhul
          *busting through swinging double doors, hands raised high throwing devils horns* "BEGIN THE HARVEST"
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        2. R.P.‏ @ResonantPyre 18 Jun 2020
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          this is a great point, true for all sides and concepts regrettably and probably a fundamental limitation in mass movements. the best 'rallying ideas' then are statements that can be understood at varying levels of complexity, nuance, but point in the same general direction

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        3. R.P.‏ @ResonantPyre 18 Jun 2020
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          "Science is a great method with certain X limitations that can get to the truth over time, etc" --> "I fucking love science" I mean, it's better than "I fucking hate science", but obviously there's something lost. I just wonder if in the mainstream we can't hope for much better

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        2. Maria 🔞Gloop Dog 🌭‏ @Wfflthebffl 18 Jun 2020
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          What lawn do you wish to maintain inside your schelling fences?

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        1. Turnip Shepherd‏ @Joithead1 18 Jun 2020
          Replying to @eigenrobot

          my shot: "respect others enough to disagree with them"

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        1. Jeremie Harris‏ @jeremiecharris 18 Jun 2020
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          I think there's probably a deeper problem with the idea of highly viral and scalable "memetic rationalism": A big part of being rational is listening to other arguments. "Hear them out! Hear them out!" is unlikely to catch on, because it sounds like hypocrisy to first order.

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        1. The Gentleman Sausage‏ @Gent_Sausage 18 Jun 2020
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          "Pithiness isn't truthfulness" might be able to break the pattern. It's three words, it's easy to spread because it's a pithy slogan, and it might force people to question other pithy slogans. And it's ironically tautological because it's pithy.

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