milton: cambridge was a "feast of sour thistles and bramble and other sophistical trash" hobbes and leibniz didn't bother working at universities and heaped contumely on professors in france, degrees were freely sold
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more generally, universities were "purged by victorious sects, disordered by riotous students, and dominated by barren theological disputes"
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"curricula had stiffened with age, and the requirements of orthodoxy bound students and teachers alike" milton on English universities: "[They] took from young men their reason by use of some charms compounded of metaphysics, miracles, traditions, and absurd scriptures."
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when the royal society was founded anglican priests complained that it would undermine respect for existing universities
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We must return to tradition
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adam smith has a good section on why oxford was sclerotic
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weirdly I have not read past maybe chapter two kind of curious now
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