things i suspect because I just listened to a history of the reformation i) history is not over and in ways none of us can even imagine sober ii) atheism is probably best seen as a western christian heretical sect (and thats fine)
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iii) the catholic church died at the council of Trent iv) tyranny is much more common in history than I had usually considered, and much more transient v) important trends often play out tectonically, and are mostly not visible in a year or decade of a person's life
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seems like a turning point where a genial, corrupt, Western church basically hollowed itself out and conceded everything important to the reformation
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I used to think this, then I began to realize why so many great thinkers during the Reformation stuck to Rome. What shouldn’t they have conceded? Specifics would be interesting here.
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Specifically trading a universal, doctrinally and morally flexible Church captured by humanism for a Church that adopted the basically Reformation insistence on orthodoxy somehow defined and adherence to random biblical passages, and imported the Inquisition to Italy herself
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the Bible and its consequences etc
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