Relationship archetypes are Actually Good Even when it's an asymmetric relationship Especially then, probably These seem to have been almost wholly dissolved. Only the parent/child bond struggles on Barely Here are some fun examples
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1. Master/pupil. Old varient: master taught the pupil daily; was involved and invested in his/her success; pupil worked in master's lab/atelier/whatever, shared meals with master, given parting gifts at graduation Today: relationships are passing, regulated, superficial
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When TAships were being handed out my first year as a PhD student, the grad director got us together and warned us that we should put exactly as much time into teaching as would let us get student ratings sufficient to get funding next quarter. Anything more was career suicide.
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With their extra time Profs can publish more empty calorie study that wont advance anything other than their tenure review Be real professors you know this to be true How many bullshit filler papers have you written
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While general trends in society probably have not helped this /thinning/ of student-teacher relationships was probably a natural response to the decline of informal moral codes in the face of Administration and lawsuits I think about this essay a lot http://laurakipnis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Sexual-Paranoia-Strikes-Academe.pdf …
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2. Child relationships with nonparental adults generally. Older people may be able to confirm that these were once common. Coaches, ministers, aunts and uncles, teachers, scoutmasters, neighbors; others?
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Today: kids have thick relationships with their parents and that's about it. Kids don't have freedom of movement until they get a car (and even that's rarer). Multigenerational homes are gone Every formal organization is paranoid about lawsuits
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3. Guest/host. This is super dead in formal terms (although having spent time hosting travelers this year I assure you it is powerful!) In any case you can view the Greek model as a template for a form of social bonding that we might have hadhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_(Greek) …
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Anyway I am thinking now that relationships with /people/ have been quite generally replaced by relationships with /institutions/ Which frankly is a pretty rotten trade-off
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Interesting because I think this is not just a rotten but a false trade-off. Once institutions are at the stage where you have to mediate all human relationships within them through bureaucratic process they are basically dead.
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Yeah I think this is correct Although--which are dead? The institutions or the relationships? (Both?) Sort of wonder how this worked historically a la (eg) marriage and the church. Also contractual relationships and the state? Hmmmmmm
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Replying to @eigenrobot
I'd say the relationships die second, because they can still exist outside the institutions, but they definitely decay.
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Replying to @willlowthewhisp @eigenrobot
Usually what happens is that institutions stop allowing for human judgement, but it can still very much affect them because people can override process level stuff if they choose to, but as you discourage thinking and encourage process worship you lose people who can make choices
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