whats interesting is that its not obviously sexist to say "a woman wouldnt be able to beat trump" I have no idea whether its true but its just an empirical claim (that has not been falsified, n=1) Theres no sexism intrinsic to it
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Sure you COULD end up with this model from some sexist premises but you could just as easily get there with woke premises "We need horrible sexist male votes to plausibly win and a woman wouldnt get them"
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So its interesting that this if true is somehow a black mark on Sander's Is it that you can't make arguments that might /possibly/ arise from unwoke notions? This seems uh limiting Or is it just observing differences across groups in any way?
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I think it's something like, you aren't allowed to advocate concessions to Unwokeness if it were "X% of the voters are sexists so let's nominate a woman to stick it to them", that's fine but can't do anything that could be seen as pandering to the X% sexists
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I think it's more "there's no real evidence for the proposition that not only do women have hurdles to overcome that men don't, but that a woman simply can't beat Trump, so it perhaps speaks to some level of sexism on the part of the person proposing the idea"
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Replying to @johnlk_80 @eigenrobot
sure, but that disagreement invites first a discussion of what the evidence actually is jumping straight to "and therefore you're sexist" bespeaks a motive political rather than epistemic
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Replying to @ded_ruckus @eigenrobot
I don't care whether Bernie is sexist in his heart. Dismissing the idea of a woman nominee a priori is a sexist *action* that results in a higher level of sexism in society. It's also extremely *self-serving* for the old white guy to say that only white guys can be elected.
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>only old white guys can get elected
I mean the US is 44 for 45 on this matter 
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