a lot of responses are along the lines of "the war was good or necessary in abstract but the execution was bungled and misconceived" which fine but its probably helpful to remember that all wars are gonna be run by the same set of fuckups so probably good to model that parthttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1213283991715033093 …
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Replying to @eigenrobot
Right? Who's ever heard of a war that isn't a massive cluster fuck?
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Replying to @danlistensto @eigenrobot
The second (1991) Gulf War was executed very well. Clusterfuck for the Iraqis, obviously.
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Replying to @Rationalbot @danlistensto
Yeah we uh murdered a fuckton of Iraqis and also let a giant rebellion get murdered Warsaw style iirc
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We also liberated Kuwait
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Ah yes Kuwait that star of democracy in the benighted middle East today ruled with the consent of the governed
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I mean it's much better than Saddam's Iraq was, let alone his occupation
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weak tea
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Um, really? Cmon Saddam was very bad
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Sure! And I'm y glad he's gone Kind of Except for all of the resulting problems The counterfactual is hard to suss out and when you're talking about this scale the morality of rulers as humans is maybe not the point Probably all heads of state should be damned as individuals
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I'm not talking about Iraq; I'm talking about kicking him out of Kuwait. The consequences of *that* were not ISIS, etc.
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Pretty meh about it tbh
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