well so far the Community has in its wisdom elected to put kids in solitary confinement i hope you forgive me for my skepticism 
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your skepticism is fully justified which is why I began by talking about solutions to this problem require solving far more fundamental problems upstream of this
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if "all we need to do to solve this is completely reengineer society along highly speculative lines" is where we've ended up I think my original point that this falls into the class of Hard Problems stands :)
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it's not a Hard problem it's just a hard problem. it's hardness is contingent, not essential. society has been completely reengineered in exactly this way several times within the last couple of centuries and appears to be in the middle of another one as we live and breathe.
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but yeah, I don't think we're gonna get a solution to this one in the current state of affairs. we probably won't get a solution to this in what we are evolving into either, if my foresight is on target. but it could be otherwise. we're just collectively fucking up (again).
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Correct. Hence our conclusion of, "yeah, it's fucked up, but it's not like there's an easy fix".
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there's no easy fix. the fixes are hard. our society in its current state is so dysfunctional that it can't do hard things. the kids are suffering more now and that trauma is going to carry into the future. karma's a bitch. we haven't even stopped digging the hole yet.
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prediction: in thirty or forty years this will be almost a non-existent problem proof left to the reader
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hard way outpic.twitter.com/ioHjejL0rl
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0/2 so far go WEIRDER
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caretaking robots would be an interesting approach but not what I had in mind!
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