(more accurately there aren't many good men + it can be really hard to tell if a man is good till you're already waist deep)
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Replying to @eigenrobot
istm there are two or three times as many good women as good men but I might be something of a misandrist
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Replying to @willdoingthings @eigenrobot
definition of "good" may or may not be specifically designed to sort Men
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Replying to @rfinz @eigenrobot
hmmm like in the sense man/hunter is the 'vir' in virtue ?
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Replying to @willdoingthings @eigenrobot
sure, but also 4:1 similar to men/women incarceration rates - either men are 4 times as bad or Law is a thing to constrain male behavior
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Replying to @rfinz @eigenrobot
seems to me that good in the sense of law-abiding, conventionally publicly prosocial &c, and good in the sense of good for women, treat them with respect &c are fairly different; the latter is a much higher bar (altho some dudes i met in jail seemed like they'd meet it)...
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when i talk about good men i mean being good for women (or for other men) in particular, which is in many ways a matter of experience and subject to rich-get-richer effects, as dudes generally start out quite immature and unreflective romantically even if otherwise well-civilized
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women on the other hand don't seem to emerge from adolescence with nearly as many _outwardly_ harmful Confusions or Issues, seemingly by virtue of being much more socially and emotionally savvy. the default cultural narratives cause them to be more self-harming than other-harming
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or just endocrine differences :o)
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Replying to @willdoingthings @rfinz
I think your point is basically right were not doing a great job of helping boys become Good men whereas maybe (maybe?) less dramatic natural failure modes for women something something intersexual differences in variation across most traits
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