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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @polyaletheia @Face_Almighty44

      Hm! Maybe? I don't quite know whether I can effectively critique a non-caricatured socialcon position because I'm so far removed from it culturally

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @eigenrobot @polyaletheia @Face_Almighty44

      well, I'm smack dab in the middle of it (as a true believer) and here's my steelman of it / steelman of the critique: * socialcons are correct that 1 marriage / 1 sex partner / (relatively) early marriage and family formation lead to the highest achievable human flourishing but

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @eigenrobot and

      2/ this leads a massive gap between puberty (~ age 13 ?) and age-of-best-family-formation (~ age 27 ?), and 99% of people will not / can not navigate those 14 years well, so there is a massive ideal vs achievability gappic.twitter.com/ctX6PCR01h

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @eigenrobot and

      3/ and in a rich society with contraceptives and cities full of people and dating apps, and 99% of people not being in the top 1% of conscientiousness, mass defections from the ideal are way-beyond-inevitable ...and there are network effects

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @eigenrobot and

      4/ so basically a Moloch-worshipping dating hellscape where people are used and tossed aside, very few are happy, and also there's mass murder of unwanted children seems absolutely inevitable and I'm ready to log off and go despair in a dark cave now

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    6. Ashley‏ @polyaletheia 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @eigenrobot @Face_Almighty44

      Alternate theory: most teenagers & young adults should be getting into increasingly long-term relationships that eventually become sexual and eventually have marriage in mind.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Ashley‏ @polyaletheia 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @polyaletheia @MorlockP and

      But we shouldn't expect the first attempts at relationships to be successful. Instead we should expect most people to have had more than one sexual relationship before marriage.

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    8. Ashley‏ @polyaletheia 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @polyaletheia @MorlockP and

      Tradition MUST adapt to circumstances, or fail. In the case of sex, the circumstances have changed: we now have contraception, abortion, sterilisation, and paternity testing. Expectations of sexual behaviour appropriate to the old circumstances are not appropriate to the new.

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    9. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @polyaletheia @MorlockP @Face_Almighty44

      the old ways had a lot of load bearing bits that were not connected to the obvious purposes tho

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    10. Ashley‏ @polyaletheia 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @eigenrobot @MorlockP @Face_Almighty44

      I feel like they were ultimately connected to issues of paternity and unwanted pregnancy?

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Aug 2019
      Replying to @polyaletheia @MorlockP @Face_Almighty44

      those seem like things on the order of things you might worry about when buying a cheese

      7:39 PM - 14 Aug 2019
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        2. Ashley‏ @polyaletheia 14 Aug 2019
          Replying to @eigenrobot @MorlockP @Face_Almighty44

          Really? Pregnancy and paternity seem to cut to the heart of everything, imo.

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 14 Aug 2019
          Replying to @polyaletheia @MorlockP @Face_Almighty44

          Hmm Yeah ok Actually paternity and pregnancy have been pretty thoroughly desacralized too Dang

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        2. bosco‏ @selentelechia 14 Aug 2019
          Replying to @eigenrobot @polyaletheia and

          not without things like c sections, post natal medical care, and state mandated child support they're not

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        3. bosco‏ @selentelechia 14 Aug 2019
          Replying to @selentelechia @eigenrobot and

          "there's a kid that she's hiding in some little town"

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