lets begin with caricatures that I can attribute seamlessly to right and left right: dont show your ankles before you're married left: ackshually god will not smite you for showing your ankles so sex is exactly like buying a cheese or shaving you get the idea
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framed a little more charitably, the left's critique I think should be acceptable even to most on the right: sexual mores are not cardinal values I don't think even tradcaths (but--?) would disagree that, say, wearing lipstick has varied in its moral status over time;
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extrapolate from that and it's hard to defend any particular set of temporogeographically-bound norms at least in deontological terms so settle for virtue or for consequentialism but these are quite plastic, so
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Anyway, I'm not a deontological sexual traditionalist. It's fine if you disagree I'm not proselytizing.
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The problem is that in fact sex is not like buying a cheese along a few important axes, and you can't just toss deontology and immediately start screaming no gods no masters I mean you can and I kind of respect that but it comes with some problems
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In this specific case, the issue is it seems to me that sex is an ekstatic state spelled with a k so that you know im serious about the greek etymology
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The thing that prompted this entire line of thought was that dumb patriarchy museum or whatever it was There was a class of (fourth?) graders going through and in particular one piece was an older fairly obese naked lady just standing there The kids looked really uncomfortable
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and that makes total sense to me, and I was fortunately able to make legible to myself the nature of my objection it's certainly not the exhibit in isolation; I can see it nicely riffing on Celle qui fut la belle heaulmière, frinstance
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Rather--and maybe this isn't quite as crisp as I'd like--the caricatured left position seems to end up in a place like this, in an uncomfortable aughtistic tangle "By our theory sex and nudity should be mundane human behavior, and by God we will act as if they are so"
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I don’t think the argument is so much “sex is meaningless”, it’s that “discomfort with the non-porn non-idealized reality of sex is an aspect of society that perpetuates historic oppression of women, and exposure reduces discomfort”.
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well this will also fail
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I mean, yeah, there’s “exposure” and then there’s “ÉPATER LA BOURGEOISE” turn-it-to-eleven bullshit that only reinforces the discomfort.
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