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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

      maybe we figured out physics too early

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    2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

      trouble with physics is it makes it real hard to be not a physicalist in other areas you can do it but its not easy

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    3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

      why is that trouble well we had some decent models of human behavior and life generally maybe that were not compatible with physicalism being wrong is fine if your model works approximately well anyway but once you realize its conceptually wrong you cant really sell it as well

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      eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

      so we have a pretty well functioning natural sciences, mostly, kind of meanwhile we've made no progress in most psychological and social sciences, in fact we've regressed in most of these cases i bet folk psychology/sociology was actually superior

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        2. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

          this because while our modern models are not wrong in the sense of being superphysical they don't strike me as an obvious improvement over the old baseline in prediction and understanding meanwhile, folk models are practical, predict pretty well, and are easy to learn

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        3. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

          I have no idea how true this was of historical folk models, but they do have the advantage of being worn to efficiency by the ages, kind of like common law

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        4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

          Even today we basically rely on old models and stories about human behavior day to day, more in abstractions that don't so obviously eschew physicalism eg "he's angry" covers the territory much better than "his cortisol levels are higher thanblahblahbl"

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        5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 16 Jul 2019

          it's an old idea, it breaks if you much try to reduce it to some physicalist definition, and its super effective everyone understands "he mad" even though it's practically not much different than "the spirit of anger has taken him"

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        2. Marc “Except You, You're All Right” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 16 Jul 2019
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          The problem is that at our current level of physical ability/tech/intelligence it doesn't scale up. Physics/chemistry/medicine have given us nearly godlike powers and all you have to do is study a little math, basically.

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        3. Marc “Except You, You're All Right” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 16 Jul 2019
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          Psychology and sociology and economics are like "I want me some of that, that looks awesome" and then they drape math all over what are still basically super-empirical observations and a lot of the time it goes all cargo-cult.

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        1. loaded dice genetic gambler‏ @SilverVVulpes 17 Jul 2019
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          lol at both premises here

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