14/ Maybe in the way rationalists are wrong about the role of models and theory, and this calls for a careful reexamination of their nature, how and when to use them and how and when they go wrong, there is a similar way to go wrong in postrat "just trying out frames" and play.
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15/ What goes wrong if you spend all your time playing with ideas and trying out frames, creating and reading insight porn, making crazy models?
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16/ I like you guys and I think a lot of you do good things. Even though I know like 2 of you IRL, there are ways in which I feel closer to you than my IRL friends. But I still feel alienated, as if none of you feel confronted with the same issues I am. welp
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I think one issue is that I'm not sure (m?)any of us are actually trying to solve problems, and perhaps it sounds like you are? I can understand how this would be frustrating for sure
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(honest question)
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maybe locally but certainly not systematically the problems of the world are not in my departmenthttps://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/871515755602485248?s=19 …
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but local problems are born from systematical problems (or, at least, from very wide-spread problems)https://twitter.com/erin_nerung/status/1141242446686371840?s=19 …
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it hurts personally, but it comes from a place of widespread uncertainty solving it locally works, but is a solution good enough if it doesn't tackle the problem in its entirety?
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Solving problems locally is efficient even in this world. First, concentrating on solving issues locally insulates me from reliance on broken systems. Second, I don't actually have any ability to solve systematic problems and so effort expended toward that end is wasted.
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to the extent I try to actually solve problems, it mostly makes me poorer and sadder and makes other people want to destroy me so
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Yeah, feels like rationalist urge is to modify everything in one’s Markov blanket (including self!), while postrats just modify children.
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