Now 8 isn't a big number. The data person in me wants more data. But it's also true that, in none of these cases, was any attempt to help the child made. Three were provided "comfort care" which could very well mean simply giving them morphine while they die. /4
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A few people pointed out that these are extreme cases. Well, yes. But that's why I'm using them. In the extreme case were we all agree that the baby is a baby, an individual with rights, can we please agree to try to keep it alive? The answer is no, we can't. /5
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Now yes, there are cases when it might not make sense to spend all that time and effort to keep someone alive, but reading the reports, it doesn't look like *any* effort was made in *any* of the cases. And I'm deeply uncomfortable with that. /6
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I feel like this is the moderate position, to provide energetic and enthusiastic care for a baby who survived an abortion. I feel like we need a doctor in the room who can advocate for the baby and isn't *just* there for the abortion. That seems like a not-crazy thing /7
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I also feel like that's a huge compromise position that people should be able to sign on for. If we say "ok, late term abortions are legal, but you need a doctor in the room whose job it is to care for a born-alive child" That feels like a 99% win for pro-choicers. /8
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But even that position gets them all riled up that I didn't just let the baby die That I'm uncomfortable with letting the baby that we *all* agree is a baby just die without any proactive medical care, this somehow makes me a crazy unreasonable pro-lifer. How did that happen? /9
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Anyway, that just really frustrated me. I'm not suddenly pro-abortion ban so much and just really exhausted with trying to find places to agree on the issue of abortion. /10
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what do you make of this?https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1129237736588599296?s=19 …
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I'm not sure I have particularly strong views on abortion... and it's not like I don't see their point. I'm just unconvinced (from what I've seen reading the reports) that a viable infant in that case would be cared for appropriately.
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Mostly, their position seems to be "we should just trust the doctors" and my position is "but should we?"
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oh I meant like--wrt people (maybe? publicly?) seeming to disregard every argument that clashes with their take/refuse to acknowledge complexity we were chatting about this in Feb, it's sort of what inspired that poll
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Oh yeah... people seem very poor at that. I'm sure I seem poor at that on this very narrow topic, but idk I feel like that a nice clear line.
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